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Sorry about the lack of notice, but the servers are down, so we can bring 
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Sorry about the lack of notice, but the servers are down, so we can bring 
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> Sorry about the lack of notice, but the servers are down, so we can bring 
> them up at a new place.
> 
> Updated servers, list the whole works.

This probably explains why I just got confirmation that I'd signed up for this mailing list. :)

Titanium 


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If you are not already  aware, we have moved the new sanctum servers to
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Thanks for playing sanctum!

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|ICQ UIN:394570                                                        | 
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Woot! (:

Anyways,
	For many, the 2 biggest changes are the domain and email list.

THE NEW DOMAIN is http://www.sanctum.nioga.net/
Other pages of interest
http://trading.sanctum.nioga.net/
http://greetings.sanctum.nioga.net/

http://mail.sanctum.nioga.net/

The mailing lists are now using MailMan, which has Archives (all on its
won so you do not need to wait for me!!!)

Please bear with us as we fix up invalid links etc, and be sure to drop an
email to me at tass@nioga.net or bugs@nioga.net so we can get them fixed.

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> If you are not already  aware, we have moved the new sanctum servers to
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|ICQ UIN:394570                                                        | 
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BTW-> email to sanctum-discuss@digitaladdiction.com will make it for now,
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> Test of old SD list address.
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Is anyone else experiencing overlapping of text on Netscape in the trading
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Yeah, and I have no idea why at the moment.

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|ICQ UIN:394570                                                        | 
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Yep
Netscape bad.. Microsoft Good.
-R

]-----Original Message-----
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]Is anyone else experiencing overlapping of text on Netscape in the
trading
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]
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]_______________________________________________
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]Discuss@sanctum.nioga.net
]http://mail.sanctum.nioga.net/mailman/listinfo/discuss

From new_horadrim@hotmail.com  Mon Oct  1 13:47:34 2001
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Microsoft bad, Netscape worse :-)


>From: "Rob Lowry (Volt)" <a-rlowry@microsoft.com>
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>
>Yep
>Netscape bad.. Microsoft Good.
>-R
>
>]-----Original Message-----
>]From: Brian [mailto:bwalsh6@home.com]
>]Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 9:52 AM
>]To: discuss@sanctum.nioga.net
>]Subject: [Discuss] Trading pages problem
>]
>]Is anyone else experiencing overlapping of text on Netscape in the
>trading
>]pages?
>]
>]
>]_______________________________________________
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>]Discuss@sanctum.nioga.net
>]http://mail.sanctum.nioga.net/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I can buy into that.. ;)   Everyone knows the only real browsers are
Mozilla or Opera anyways. <grin>

-Grok

]-----Original Message-----
]From: Dirk Peters [mailto:new_horadrim@hotmail.com]
]Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:48 AM
]To: discuss@sanctum.nioga.net
]Subject: RE: [Discuss] Trading pages problem
]
]Microsoft bad, Netscape worse :-)
]
]
]>From: "Rob Lowry (Volt)" <a-rlowry@microsoft.com>
]>Reply-To: discuss@sanctum.nioga.net
]>To: <discuss@sanctum.nioga.net>
]>Subject: RE: [Discuss] Trading pages problem
]>Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 10:28:33 -0700
]>
]>Yep
]>Netscape bad.. Microsoft Good.
]>-R
]>
]>]-----Original Message-----
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]>]Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 9:52 AM
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]>]
]>]Is anyone else experiencing overlapping of text on Netscape in the
]>trading
]>]pages?
]>]
]>]
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]>_______________________________________________
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]
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Opera...a name I have not heard in longtime....so it still exists? 
Wow....great browser too.. =)


At 11:05 AM 10/1/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>I can buy into that.. ;)   Everyone knows the only real browsers are
>Mozilla or Opera anyways. <grin>
>
>-Grok
>
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>]
>]Microsoft bad, Netscape worse :-)
>]
>]
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>]>
>]>Yep
>]>Netscape bad.. Microsoft Good.
>]>-R
>]>
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Just wondering if Sanctum could be added to the default [Discuss]. I use
filters to help sort my mail and am on a few lists so it would be helpful,
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Brian




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.. Or you could just change your filters so they work with the nifty new
address, the from line should contain discuss-admin@sanctum.nioga.net.

Bing Bang Bong, you're filtered.

-Soc



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> Just wondering if Sanctum could be added to the default [Discuss]. I use
> filters to help sort my mail and am on a few lists so it would be helpful,
> to me at least, if it could be done.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.sanctum.nioga.net/mailman/listinfo/discuss


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Ooops, my mistake.... your filters would be set to recognize the "To:" line
as discuss@sanctum.nioga.net


Apologies to anyone who may have used the aforeposted mistake

-Soc


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> .. Or you could just change your filters so they work with the nifty new
> address, the from line should contain discuss-admin@sanctum.nioga.net.
>
> Bing Bang Bong, you're filtered.
>
> -Soc
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: <discuss@sanctum.nioga.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 12:40 AM
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>
>
> > Just wondering if Sanctum could be added to the default [Discuss]. I use
> > filters to help sort my mail and am on a few lists so it would be
helpful,
> > to me at least, if it could be done.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Discuss@sanctum.nioga.net
> > http://mail.sanctum.nioga.net/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
> _______________________________________________
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Crap, still doesn't work, I'll just keep trying until the filters recognize
something besides what's contained in the subject line. I've always found
the subject line a bad way to filter any list.

Please feel free to ignore the subsequent test posts

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 12:59 AM
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> Ooops, my mistake.... your filters would be set to recognize the "To:"
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> as discuss@sanctum.nioga.net
>
>
> Apologies to anyone who may have used the aforeposted mistake
>
> -Soc
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: <discuss@sanctum.nioga.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 12:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [Discuss] New discuss list
>
>
> > .. Or you could just change your filters so they work with the nifty new
> > address, the from line should contain discuss-admin@sanctum.nioga.net.
> >
> > Bing Bang Bong, you're filtered.
> >
> > -Soc
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brian Vance" <bvance@seidata.com>
> > To: <discuss@sanctum.nioga.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 12:40 AM
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> >
> >
> > > Just wondering if Sanctum could be added to the default [Discuss]. I
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> > > to me at least, if it could be done.
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>
> _______________________________________________
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Worked for me (filtering on To:  discuss@sanctum.nioga.net
-Grok
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donald Ray Vaughan II" <pyramidbuilder@mindspring.com>
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> .
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss@sanctum.nioga.net
> http://mail.sanctum.nioga.net/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> 


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Okay, my second post was in fact correct. I erred when I made the change to
the address but failed to switch the "from" line to the "to:" line.
::blush::

So, setting the "To:" line to be recognized as discuss@sanctum.nioga.net
would correctly forward your mail to the folder you specify.

Too much work, not enough sleep. That'll teach me to stay up late trying to
crossbreed a hamster and an iguana the old fashioned way. ..... It wasn't
pretty.

Donald R Vaughan II, A+, Network+


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Which one did you breed with first?
-Grok
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald Ray Vaughan II" <pyramidbuilder@mindspring.com>
To: "sanctum-discuss" <discuss@sanctum.nioga.net>
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:22 PM
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> Okay, my second post was in fact correct. I erred when I made the change
to
> the address but failed to switch the "from" line to the "to:" line.
> ::blush::
>
> So, setting the "To:" line to be recognized as discuss@sanctum.nioga.net
> would correctly forward your mail to the folder you specify.
>
> Too much work, not enough sleep. That'll teach me to stay up late trying
to
> crossbreed a hamster and an iguana the old fashioned way. ..... It wasn't
> pretty.
>
> Donald R Vaughan II, A+, Network+
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Discuss@sanctum.nioga.net
> http://mail.sanctum.nioga.net/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>


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Not a problem. 
In fact, that would explain why I am missing stuff in my filters (:


On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Brian Vance wrote:

> Just wondering if Sanctum could be added to the default [Discuss]. I use
> filters to help sort my mail and am on a few lists so it would be helpful,
> to me at least, if it could be done.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> 
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I added [Sanctum-Discuss] and [Sanctum-Announce] as the subject lines (:

On
Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Donald Ray Vaughan II wrote:

> Crap, still doesn't work, I'll just keep trying until the filters recognize
> something besides what's contained in the subject line. I've always found
> the subject line a bad way to filter any list.
> 
> Please feel free to ignore the subsequent test posts
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donald Ray Vaughan II" <pyramidbuilder@mindspring.com>
> To: <discuss@sanctum.nioga.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 12:59 AM
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> 
> 
> > Ooops, my mistake.... your filters would be set to recognize the "To:"
> line
> > as discuss@sanctum.nioga.net
> >
> >
> > Apologies to anyone who may have used the aforeposted mistake
> >
> > -Soc
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Donald Ray Vaughan II" <pyramidbuilder@mindspring.com>
> > To: <discuss@sanctum.nioga.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 12:54 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Discuss] New discuss list
> >
> >
> > > .. Or you could just change your filters so they work with the nifty new
> > > address, the from line should contain discuss-admin@sanctum.nioga.net.
> > >
> > > Bing Bang Bong, you're filtered.
> > >
> > > -Soc
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Brian Vance" <bvance@seidata.com>
> > > To: <discuss@sanctum.nioga.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 12:40 AM
> > > Subject: [Discuss] New discuss list
> > >
> > >
> > > > Just wondering if Sanctum could be added to the default [Discuss]. I
> use
> > > > filters to help sort my mail and am on a few lists so it would be
> > helpful,
> > > > to me at least, if it could be done.
> > > >
> > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Discuss mailing list
> > > > Discuss@sanctum.nioga.net
> > > > http://mail.sanctum.nioga.net/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> > >
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> > > http://mail.sanctum.nioga.net/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >
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> > http://mail.sanctum.nioga.net/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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: Why do they call it common sense?  Nowadays it doesn't seem to be so
: common...

Yeah - as I said, it's "common" as in "simple" or "pedestrian", not "common"
as in "abundant" or "plentiful".

From Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Tenth Edition:

common sense [n] (1535) 1: the unreflective opinions of ordinary people  2:
sound and prudent but often unsophisticated judgment

The word "common" is a, well, common way to say "unreflective" and
"unsophisticated".  - ZM, who still likes Grok's answer, though


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testing..........don't respond - *sighs* knowing he will get responses
anyway, if it gets there

DB



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----- Original Message -----
From: "The Sanctum Puzzler" <Puzzler@DigitalAddiction.com>
To: <sanctum-discuss@DigitalAddiction.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [sanctum-discuss] Common sense


> : Why do they call it common sense?  Nowadays it doesn't seem to be so
> : common...
>
> Yeah - as I said, it's "common" as in "simple" or "pedestrian", not
"common"
> as in "abundant" or "plentiful".
>
> From Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Tenth Edition:
>
> common sense [n] (1535) 1: the unreflective opinions of ordinary people
2:
> sound and prudent but often unsophisticated judgment
>
> The word "common" is a, well, common way to say "unreflective" and
> "unsophisticated".  - ZM, who still likes Grok's answer, though
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Discuss@sanctum.nioga.net
> http://mail.sanctum.nioga.net/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Derek Buck" <derek@deebee.swinternet.co.uk>
To: <discuss@sanctum.nioga.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [sanctum-discuss] Common sense


> testing..........don't respond - *sighs* knowing he will get responses
> anyway, if it gets there
> 
> DB

Then don't test until you have something to say. Anything. Just make it look like it isn't a test!

> I have joined a number of Income Generating Plans and will be adding some
> referral links as my signature.  Should you wish to see others, email me and
> I will discuss your options and put you in the right direction.

No, we don't want your "Get someone else rich quick" schemes. They are universally bull.


Titanium 


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It's somewhat funny that you would post these links in a response to
a thread about Common Sense.  I have found that most "get-rich-quick"
schemes are designed to only get one person rich, the originator of
the scheme.


--- Derek Buck <derek@deebee.swinternet.co.uk> wrote:
> testing..........don't respond - *sighs* knowing he will get
> responses
> anyway, if it gets there
> 
> DB
> 
> 
> 
> I have joined a number of Income Generating Plans and will be
> adding some
> referral links as my signature.  Should you wish to see others,
> email me and
> I will discuss your options and put you in the right direction.
> 

>>> SNIP <<<



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I now live in fear everyday of opening my mailbox and finding yet another
email in my Inbox titled: "Out of Debt? You can be with our help...," or "Do
You Owe Money?," or any other of the myriad of combinations involving debt
and/or owing money. I loathe these insipid attempts at parting me from my
hard earned dollar(s). They are nothing more than a form of cyber-terrorism.
You can't identify who actually sent it, and God forbid if you actually try
to "unsubscribe" from the list. Trying to "unsubscribe" only results in more
mail from other sources, because now they KNOW your email address is valid.

Now I face the prospect of having these get-rich-quick schemes proffered to
me every time I read an email on sanctum-discuss.

I say "No!" I do NOT want your help making my living. I do NOT want to
cringe every time I see a post on sanctum-discuss bearing your name. I do
NOT want this form of terrorism to expand itself to a forum where I often go
to get away from it all.

Thank you DB, but no thank you.


-Soc
Maybe you could just put something funny and/or witty in your signature?
If you do not feel that your wit is up to the task, just steal something...

like this....

"It takes a virile man to make a chicken pregnant." - Perdue chicken ad, as
mistranslated abroad
Now you know how easy it was for them to come up with- "All your base are
belong to us"



> testing..........don't respond - *sighs* knowing he will get responses
> anyway, if it gets there
>
> DB
>
>
>
> I have joined a number of Income Generating Plans and will be adding some
> referral links as my signature.  Should you wish to see others, email me
and
> I will discuss your options and put you in the right direction.
>
> "http://www.ezinfocenter.com/2852625"  Six Figure Income: Loads of sales
to
> date


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/e rolls eyes

Slow time in Sanctum Discuss really brings out the Drama Queens.

~MightyBug~ who MUST be a cyber terrorist too for his blaspheme


>From: "Donald Ray Vaughan II" <pyramidbuilder@mindspring.com>
>Reply-To: discuss@sanctum.nioga.net
>To: <discuss@sanctum.nioga.net>
>Subject: [Sanctum-Discuss] Re: Internet terrorism
>Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:54:39 -0400
>
>I now live in fear everyday of opening my mailbox and finding yet another
>email in my Inbox titled: "Out of Debt? You can be with our help...," or 
>"Do
>You Owe Money?," or any other of the myriad of combinations involving debt
>and/or owing money. I loathe these insipid attempts at parting me from my
>hard earned dollar(s). They are nothing more than a form of 
>cyber-terrorism.
>You can't identify who actually sent it, and God forbid if you actually try
>to "unsubscribe" from the list. Trying to "unsubscribe" only results in 
>more
>mail from other sources, because now they KNOW your email address is valid.
>
>Now I face the prospect of having these get-rich-quick schemes proffered to
>me every time I read an email on sanctum-discuss.
>
>I say "No!" I do NOT want your help making my living. I do NOT want to
>cringe every time I see a post on sanctum-discuss bearing your name. I do
>NOT want this form of terrorism to expand itself to a forum where I often 
>go
>to get away from it all.
>
>Thank you DB, but no thank you.
>
>
>-Soc
>Maybe you could just put something funny and/or witty in your signature?
>If you do not feel that your wit is up to the task, just steal something...
>
>like this....
>
>"It takes a virile man to make a chicken pregnant." - Perdue chicken ad, as
>mistranslated abroad
>Now you know how easy it was for them to come up with- "All your base are
>belong to us"
>
>
>
> > testing..........don't respond - *sighs* knowing he will get responses
> > anyway, if it gets there
> >
> > DB
> >
> >
> >
> > I have joined a number of Income Generating Plans and will be adding 
>some
> > referral links as my signature.  Should you wish to see others, email me
>and
> > I will discuss your options and put you in the right direction.
> >
> > "http://www.ezinfocenter.com/2852625"  Six Figure Income: Loads of sales
>to
> > date
>
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I just saw the sanctum webpage.....something really has to be done about 
it...it looks terrible and it is impossible to find anything and all those 
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I don't know what all the Nioga members are doing...but this just has to be 
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What errors? What problems? Have you reported them to bugs@nioga.net ?
Are you going to www.digitaladdiction.com or sanctum.nioga.net ? =20
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]-----Original Message-----
]From: Boris Yland [mailto:juggernaut_84@hotmail.com]
]Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 9:29 AM
]To: discuss@sanctum.nioga.net
]Subject: Re: [Sanctum-Discuss] PlanetGrehen
]
]I just saw the sanctum webpage.....something really has to be done
about
]it...it looks terrible and it is impossible to find anything and all
those
]errors....
]I don't know what all the Nioga members are doing...but this just has
to be
]fixed....
]-Juggs
]
]*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*
]*~~~~~~~~~~~~For Sanctum tactics; Visit PlanetGRHN at:~~~~~~~~~~~~~*
]*~~~~~~~ http://www.planetsanctum.com/cabal/kotr/planetgrhn ~~~~~~~*
]**~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
]*Play Sanctum, Online game of the year at http://sanctum.nioga.net *
]**~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
]
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Move to Europe Soc.  The EU just recently banned unsolicited
email.
Gi-Le-Farg

--- Donald Ray Vaughan II <pyramidbuilder@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I now live in fear everyday of opening my mailbox and finding
> yet another
> email in my Inbox titled: "Out of Debt? You can be with our
> help...," or "Do
> You Owe Money?," or any other of the myriad of combinations
> involving debt
> and/or owing money. I loathe these insipid attempts at parting
> me from my
> hard earned dollar(s). They are nothing more than a form of
> cyber-terrorism.
> You can't identify who actually sent it, and God forbid if you
> actually try
> to "unsubscribe" from the list. Trying to "unsubscribe" only
> results in more
> mail from other sources, because now they KNOW your email
> address is valid.
> 
> Now I face the prospect of having these get-rich-quick schemes
> proffered to
> me every time I read an email on sanctum-discuss.
> 
> I say "No!" I do NOT want your help making my living. I do NOT
> want to
> cringe every time I see a post on sanctum-discuss bearing your
> name. I do
> NOT want this form of terrorism to expand itself to a forum
> where I often go
> to get away from it all.
> 
> Thank you DB, but no thank you.
> 
> 
> -Soc
> Maybe you could just put something funny and/or witty in your
> signature?
> If you do not feel that your wit is up to the task, just steal
> something...
> 
> like this....
> 
> "It takes a virile man to make a chicken pregnant." - Perdue
> chicken ad, as
> mistranslated abroad
> Now you know how easy it was for them to come up with- "All
> your base are
> belong to us"
> 
> 
> 
> > testing..........don't respond - *sighs* knowing he will get
> responses
> > anyway, if it gets there
> >
> > DB
> >
> >
> >
> > I have joined a number of Income Generating Plans and will
> be adding some
> > referral links as my signature.  Should you wish to see
> others, email me
> and
> > I will discuss your options and put you in the right
> direction.
> >
> > "http://www.ezinfocenter.com/2852625"  Six Figure Income:
> Loads of sales
> to
> > date
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss@sanctum.nioga.net
> http://mail.sanctum.nioga.net/mailman/listinfo/discuss


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Or move to Washington State, one of the first states in the Union that
has an anti-spam law. If you get on a list and request to be removed,
they must comply or you can sue em :)  And people are doing so, and
WINNING.. Sure, its only a few hundred bucks each time, but if you can
get a nice system going, you may never need to work again!
-Grok

]-----Original Message-----
]From: Zac Cauchy [mailto:therock49009@yahoo.com]
]Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 10:25 AM
]To: discuss@sanctum.nioga.net
]Subject: Re: [Sanctum-Discuss] Re: Internet terrorism
]
]Move to Europe Soc.  The EU just recently banned unsolicited
]email.
]Gi-Le-Farg
]
]--- Donald Ray Vaughan II <pyramidbuilder@mindspring.com> wrote:
]> I now live in fear everyday of opening my mailbox and finding
]> yet another
]> email in my Inbox titled: "Out of Debt? You can be with our
]> help...," or "Do
]> You Owe Money?," or any other of the myriad of combinations
]> involving debt
]> and/or owing money. I loathe these insipid attempts at parting
]> me from my
]> hard earned dollar(s). They are nothing more than a form of
]> cyber-terrorism.
]> You can't identify who actually sent it, and God forbid if you
]> actually try
]> to "unsubscribe" from the list. Trying to "unsubscribe" only
]> results in more
]> mail from other sources, because now they KNOW your email
]> address is valid.
]>
]> Now I face the prospect of having these get-rich-quick schemes
]> proffered to
]> me every time I read an email on sanctum-discuss.
]>
]> I say "No!" I do NOT want your help making my living. I do NOT
]> want to
]> cringe every time I see a post on sanctum-discuss bearing your
]> name. I do
]> NOT want this form of terrorism to expand itself to a forum
]> where I often go
]> to get away from it all.
]>
]> Thank you DB, but no thank you.
]>
]>
]> -Soc
]> Maybe you could just put something funny and/or witty in your
]> signature?
]> If you do not feel that your wit is up to the task, just steal
]> something...
]>
]> like this....
]>
]> "It takes a virile man to make a chicken pregnant." - Perdue
]> chicken ad, as
]> mistranslated abroad
]> Now you know how easy it was for them to come up with- "All
]> your base are
]> belong to us"
]>
]>
]>
]> > testing..........don't respond - *sighs* knowing he will get
]> responses
]> > anyway, if it gets there
]> >
]> > DB
]> >
]> >
]> >
]> > I have joined a number of Income Generating Plans and will
]> be adding some
]> > referral links as my signature.  Should you wish to see
]> others, email me
]> and
]> > I will discuss your options and put you in the right
]> direction.
]> >
]> > "http://www.ezinfocenter.com/2852625"  Six Figure Income:
]> Loads of sales
]> to
]> > date
]>
]> _______________________________________________
]> Discuss mailing list
]> Discuss@sanctum.nioga.net
]> http://mail.sanctum.nioga.net/mailman/listinfo/discuss
]
]
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Dear Juggs

We are very aware of the problems and overall appearance of the websites. With
the move to the new location and build of our new servers, we have encountered
a few more little problems that we did not anticipate. The priority to this
point has been to sort out the server mechanics to allow everyone a great
gaming experience.

Unfortunately, we only have a certain amount of resources and those resources
have been directed at the above up until now. With Tass's hard work and the
help of the folks at DelSol, we have those issues pretty much licked.

So, in conclusion, we are now shifting our attention to other "soft" areas of
sanctum where the website is one of the things to be rectified.

Please bear with us, it WILL be worth the wait :-)

Thanks for playing SANCTUM!

Doug Mattatall
Vice Chairman
NIOGA

Boris Yland wrote:

> I just saw the sanctum webpage.....something really has to be done about
> it...it looks terrible and it is impossible to find anything and all those
> errors....
> I don't know what all the Nioga members are doing...but this just has to be
> fixed....
> -Juggs
>
> *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*
> *~~~~~~~~~~~~For Sanctum tactics; Visit PlanetGRHN at:~~~~~~~~~~~~~*
> *~~~~~~~ http://www.planetsanctum.com/cabal/kotr/planetgrhn ~~~~~~~*
> **~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
> *Play Sanctum, Online game of the year at http://sanctum.nioga.net *
> **~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
>
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Boris Yland was seen to say:
>I just saw the sanctum webpage.....something really has to be done about 
>it...it looks terrible and it is impossible to find anything and all those 
>errors....
>I don't know what all the Nioga members are doing...but this just has to 
>be fixed....
>-Juggs

No offense, but this is a highly useless email. Did you read ANY of the 
announcements or MessageOfTheDay when you login? If so, are you just too 
lazy to help make Sanctum good?

Please, EMAIL any problems you find. Unless you email them, we have no idea 
they exist and will not be fixing them.

So, don't just email the list and complain, email me, or bugs or support.



>*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*
>*~~~~~~~~~~~~For Sanctum tactics; Visit PlanetGRHN at:~~~~~~~~~~~~~*
>*~~~~~~~ http://www.planetsanctum.com/cabal/kotr/planetgrhn ~~~~~~~*
>**~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
>*Play Sanctum, Online game of the year at http://sanctum.nioga.net *
>**~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
>
>
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From new_horadrim@hotmail.com  Mon Oct  8 16:31:09 2001
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I think Juggs didn't mean to be that harsh.

A webmaster should check his website for problems himself, and not rely on 
bug reports. It's his website, so his responsibility. I'm not accusing you 
of anything though, since I know you're all volunteers and probably already 
busy enough.

On the other hand, Juggs has no right to complain that bugs he notices are 
not fixed if he doens't report them himself. He could comment you on a lousy 
website, but to command Nioga to do something about it is wrong.

-Dirk "ArchVision" Peters, PlanetGrehen webmaster.

p.s If you need help on the website, I'd be glad to lend a hand.
p.s.2 If anyone sees any bugs etc. on PlanetGrehen, plz report them. I won't 
fix what I don't know about ;-)

>From: Tass Chapman <tass@nioga.net>
>Reply-To: discuss@sanctum.nioga.net
>To: discuss@sanctum.nioga.net
>Subject: Re: [Sanctum-Discuss] PlanetGrehen
>Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 15:26:29 -0400
>
>Boris Yland was seen to say:
>>I just saw the sanctum webpage.....something really has to be done about
>>it...it looks terrible and it is impossible to find anything and all those
>>errors....
>>I don't know what all the Nioga members are doing...but this just has to
>>be fixed....
>>-Juggs
>
>No offense, but this is a highly useless email. Did you read ANY of the
>announcements or MessageOfTheDay when you login? If so, are you just too
>lazy to help make Sanctum good?
>
>Please, EMAIL any problems you find. Unless you email them, we have no idea
>they exist and will not be fixing them.
>
>So, don't just email the list and complain, email me, or bugs or support.
>
>
>
>>*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*
>>*~~~~~~~~~~~~For Sanctum tactics; Visit PlanetGRHN at:~~~~~~~~~~~~~*
>>*~~~~~~~ http://www.planetsanctum.com/cabal/kotr/planetgrhn ~~~~~~~*
>>**~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
>>*Play Sanctum, Online game of the year at http://sanctum.nioga.net *
>>**~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
>>
>>
>>
>>_________________________________________________________________
>>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
>>
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>
>
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>http://sanctum.nioga.net
>
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> testing..........don't respond - *sighs* knowing he will get responses
> anyway, if it gets there
>=20
> DB
>=20

>         MESSAGE DELETED TO MAKE THE POINT

8-)

What I find funny, is I asked the message to be ignored....I am not so =
oblique as to say ignore if I want something read.  Re responses: check =
at the bottom...after =
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Incidentally, when the message was replied to and sent to the list, the =
"offending signature" was retransmitted to the list again.  This was not =
my intention.

If you are bothered to know why I sent a please ignore email, read =
on..............if not..........DELETE!

I could beg forgiveness.....but I won't.  I make mistakes just like =
other people. =20

Anyway:

I had distinct purposes in sending the email.

1) Connect using this danged ISP. (Necessary to send emails from all =
email accounts run through this particular ISP.=20
2)    Both the internet connection and the email account  have to be =
used at least once a month.  I didn't know whether the account was still =
active.  Now I know and it's done for this month..... 8-)

2) I thought I had cancelled my SD account for this email address to put =
it on one that enables me to respond without coming offline.  I wanted =
to check this out.  Verified it is still there. 8-)=20

    Incidentally:    Decided to keep it there as it enables me to have =
effectively unlimited email addresses for kids, business etc - so there!

Seeing the email in my inbox promptly answered my question.=20
In this case, I  made 3 honest mistakes.  Including the signature was =
MISTAKE 1.  I do not usually include any business (or other similar) =
signature to lists that are not specifically for them.  Check back if =
you can be bothered and you will see that I remove almost all the =
carried over signatures before I respond and that includes my own - if I =
remember or have time.

Mistake 2 - I just hit reply and forgot to change the subject line too.  =
Go on - shoot me! lol.

As I was online with this damned ISP and sent it without proof-reading =
for speed, MISTAKE 3 - (a big no no), only upon receiving it in my Inbox =
did I notice the two errors on my part, of course too late.


In essence:

I will endeavour to ensure that no other messages promoting anything get =
to the list, on the proviso that I don't get them either from others - =
geocities/yahoo/ included.... 8-) =20

What's good for the gander is sauce for the goose.  I know, I =
know...................

chortles merrily



DB11
Derek

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Yes, I had a sanctum related comment to make but for speed didn't engage =
brain to put into words what I was thinking.  In the end it was just =
send to test!  Next time, will make sure I have something useful to say.

I can also be witty, frequently am and often enjoy a good chortle - even =
at the content of the list on occasion.

As far as money making schemes are concerned, I have been in a few, some =
have been successful, some have not, but I am not in any program that I =
am aware of that is only paying the top bods and not the bods like me at =
the bottom or in the middle....Some of my immediate colleagues are =
making several thousand dollars a month, though I am just covering my =
costs right now as I haven't been pushing them.

Maybe I ought to get busy.  Na, Sanctum calls and anyway, who needs =
money? lol


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; testing..........don't respond - =
*sighs*=20
knowing he will get responses<BR>&gt; anyway, if it gets there<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt;=20
DB<BR>&gt; <BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MESSAGE=20
DELETED TO MAKE THE POINT</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>8-)</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What I find funny, is I asked the =
message to be=20
ignored....I am not so oblique as to say ignore if I want something =
read.&nbsp;=20
Re responses: check at the bottom...after =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Incidentally, when the message was =
replied to and=20
sent to the list, the "offending signature" was retransmitted to the =
list=20
again.&nbsp; This was not my intention.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you are bothered to know why I sent =
a please=20
ignore email, read on..............if not..........DELETE!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I could beg forgiveness.....but I =
won't.&nbsp; I=20
make mistakes just like other people.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyway:</FONT></DIV>
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